diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_flex.c b/src/lv_core/lv_flex.c
index c75e66bc0..d28e3f143 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_flex.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_flex.c
@@ -73,6 +73,7 @@ void _lv_flex_refresh(lv_obj_t * cont)
     lv_coord_t abs_x = cont->coords.x1 + lv_obj_get_style_pad_left(cont, LV_OBJ_PART_MAIN) - lv_obj_get_scroll_left(cont);
     lv_coord_t abs_y = cont->coords.y1 + lv_obj_get_style_pad_top(cont, LV_OBJ_PART_MAIN) - lv_obj_get_scroll_top(cont);
 
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(cont);
     lv_coord_t * cross_pos = (row ? &abs_y : &abs_x);
 
     lv_coord_t place = cont->flex_cont.place;
@@ -92,7 +93,7 @@ void _lv_flex_refresh(lv_obj_t * cont)
     bool rev = cont->flex_cont.dir & LV_FLEX_REVERSE;
 
     if(place != LV_FLEX_START) {
-        track_first_item =  rev ? _lv_ll_get_head(&cont->child_ll) : _lv_ll_get_tail(&cont->child_ll);
+        track_first_item =  rev ? _lv_ll_get_head(ll) : _lv_ll_get_tail(ll);
 
         while(track_first_item) {
             /*Search the first item of the next row */
@@ -106,7 +107,7 @@ void _lv_flex_refresh(lv_obj_t * cont)
         place_content(place, max_cross_size, all_track_size,row_cnt, cross_pos, &gap);
     }
 
-    track_first_item =  rev ? _lv_ll_get_head(&cont->child_ll) : _lv_ll_get_tail(&cont->child_ll);
+    track_first_item =  rev ? _lv_ll_get_head(ll) : _lv_ll_get_tail(ll);
     while(track_first_item) {
         /*Search the first item of the next row */
         next_track_first_item = find_track_end(cont, track_first_item, max_main_size, &grow_unit, &track_size);
@@ -131,6 +132,8 @@ static lv_obj_t * find_track_end(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_start, lv_coor
     void * (*ll_iter)(const lv_ll_t * , const void *) = dir & LV_FLEX_REVERSE ? _lv_ll_get_next : _lv_ll_get_prev;
     bool wrap = dir & LV_FLEX_WRAP ? true : false;
 
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(cont);
+
     lv_coord_t grow_sum = 0;
     lv_coord_t used_size = 0;
     lv_coord_t gap = cont->flex_cont.gap;
@@ -143,7 +146,7 @@ static lv_obj_t * find_track_end(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_start, lv_coor
         /*Ignore non-flex items*/
         lv_coord_t main_set = (row ? item->x_set : item->y_set);
         if(LV_COORD_IS_FLEX(main_set) == false) {
-            item = ll_iter(&cont->child_ll, item);
+            item = ll_iter(ll, item);
             continue;
         }
 
@@ -158,7 +161,7 @@ static lv_obj_t * find_track_end(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_start, lv_coor
         }
         *track_cross_size = LV_MATH_MAX(get_cross_size(item), *track_cross_size);
 
-        item = ll_iter(&cont->child_ll, item);
+        item = ll_iter(ll, item);
     }
 
     if(used_size > 0) used_size -= gap; /*There is no gap after the last item*/
@@ -173,7 +176,7 @@ static lv_obj_t * find_track_end(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_start, lv_coor
 
     /*Have at least one item in a row*/
     if(item && item == item_start) {
-        item = ll_iter(&cont->child_ll, item);
+        item = ll_iter(ll, item);
         if(item) *track_cross_size = get_cross_size(item);
     }
 
@@ -193,6 +196,7 @@ static void children_repos(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_first, lv_obj_t * it
     lv_style_int_t (*get_margin_end)(const lv_obj_t *, uint8_t part) = (row ? lv_obj_get_style_margin_right : lv_obj_get_style_margin_bottom);
     void * (*ll_iter)(const lv_ll_t * , const void *) = dir & LV_FLEX_REVERSE ? _lv_ll_get_next : _lv_ll_get_prev;
 
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(cont);
     lv_coord_t gap = cont->flex_cont.gap;
     lv_coord_t main_pos = 0;
     /*Reposition the children*/
@@ -202,7 +206,7 @@ static void children_repos(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_first, lv_obj_t * it
         /*Ignore non-flex items*/
         lv_coord_t main_set = (row ? item->x_set : item->y_set);
         if(LV_COORD_IS_FLEX(main_set) == false) {
-            item = ll_iter(&cont->child_ll, item);
+            item = ll_iter(ll, item);
             continue;
         }
 
@@ -253,7 +257,7 @@ static void children_repos(lv_obj_t * cont, lv_obj_t * item_first, lv_obj_t * it
             _lv_obj_move_children_by(item, diff_x, diff_y);
         }
         main_pos += obj_get_main_size(item) + gap;
-        item = ll_iter(&cont->child_ll, item);
+        item = ll_iter(ll, item);
     }
 }
 
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_grid.c b/src/lv_core/lv_grid.c
index c4ed0a59b..dfbe1434e 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_grid.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_grid.c
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ void lv_obj_report_grid_change(const lv_grid_t * grid)
 
     while(d) {
         lv_obj_t * i;
-        _LV_LL_READ(d->scr_ll, i) {
+        _LV_LL_READ(&d->scr_ll, i) {
             report_grid_change_core(grid, i);
         }
         d = lv_disp_get_next(d);
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_group.c b/src/lv_core/lv_group.c
index 78fe73ea7..32f906dc5 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_group.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_group.c
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ void lv_group_del(lv_group_t * group)
 
     /*Remove the objects from the group*/
     lv_obj_t ** obj;
-    _LV_LL_READ(group->obj_ll, obj) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&group->obj_ll, obj) {
         (*obj)->group_p = NULL;
     }
 
@@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ void lv_group_add_obj(lv_group_t * group, lv_obj_t * obj)
     if(group == NULL) return;
     /*Do not add the object twice*/
     lv_obj_t ** obj_i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(group->obj_ll, obj_i) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&group->obj_ll, obj_i) {
         if((*obj_i) == obj) {
             LV_LOG_INFO("lv_group_add_obj: the object is already added to this group");
             return;
@@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ void lv_group_remove_obj(lv_obj_t * obj)
 
     /*Search the object and remove it from its group */
     lv_obj_t ** i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(g->obj_ll, i) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&g->obj_ll, i) {
         if(*i == obj) {
             _lv_ll_remove(&g->obj_ll, i);
             lv_mem_free(i);
@@ -198,7 +198,7 @@ void lv_group_remove_all_objs(lv_group_t * group)
 
     /*Remove the objects from the group*/
     lv_obj_t ** obj;
-    _LV_LL_READ(group->obj_ll, obj) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&group->obj_ll, obj) {
         (*obj)->group_p = NULL;
     }
 
@@ -223,7 +223,7 @@ void lv_group_focus_obj(lv_obj_t * obj)
     lv_group_set_editing(g, false);
 
     lv_obj_t ** i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(g->obj_ll, i) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&g->obj_ll, i) {
         if(*i == obj) {
             if(g->obj_focus != NULL) {
                 (*g->obj_focus)->signal_cb(*g->obj_focus, LV_SIGNAL_DEFOCUS, NULL);
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_indev.c b/src/lv_core/lv_indev.c
index e3d53935f..6be36ad7d 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_indev.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_indev.c
@@ -1048,7 +1048,8 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_indev_search_obj(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_point_t * point)
     if(lv_obj_hit_test(obj, point)) {
         lv_obj_t * i;
 
-        _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, i) {
+        lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+        _LV_LL_READ(ll, i) {
             found_p = lv_indev_search_obj(i, point);
 
             /*If a child was found then break*/
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj.c b/src/lv_core/lv_obj.c
index 2fffbe30a..427618dfa 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj.c
@@ -225,8 +225,10 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_obj_create(lv_obj_t * parent, const lv_obj_t * copy)
     else {
         LV_LOG_TRACE("Object create started");
         LV_ASSERT_OBJ(parent, LV_OBJX_NAME);
-
-        new_obj = _lv_ll_ins_head(&parent->child_ll);
+        if(parent->rare_attr == NULL) {
+            parent->rare_attr = lv_obj_allocate_rare_attr(parent);
+        }
+        new_obj = _lv_ll_ins_head(&parent->rare_attr->child_ll);
         LV_ASSERT_MEM(new_obj);
         if(new_obj == NULL) return NULL;
 
@@ -260,9 +262,6 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_obj_create(lv_obj_t * parent, const lv_obj_t * copy)
     }
 
 
-    _lv_ll_init(&(new_obj->child_ll), sizeof(lv_obj_t));
-
-
     new_obj->ext_draw_pad = 0;
 
 #if LV_USE_EXT_CLICK_AREA == LV_EXT_CLICK_AREA_FULL
@@ -293,8 +292,6 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_obj_create(lv_obj_t * parent, const lv_obj_t * copy)
     new_obj->flags |= LV_OBJ_FLAG_SCROLL_MOMENTUM;
     if(parent) new_obj->flags |= LV_OBJ_FLAG_GESTURE_BUBBLE;
     new_obj->state = LV_STATE_DEFAULT;
-    new_obj->scroll.x = 0;
-    new_obj->scroll.y = 0;
 
     new_obj->ext_attr = NULL;
 
@@ -562,6 +559,10 @@ void lv_obj_set_parent(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_obj_t * parent)
 
     lv_obj_invalidate(obj);
 
+    if(parent->rare_attr == NULL) {
+        parent->rare_attr = lv_obj_allocate_rare_attr(parent);
+    }
+
     lv_obj_t * old_par = obj->parent;
     lv_point_t old_pos;
     old_pos.y = lv_obj_get_y(obj);
@@ -575,7 +576,7 @@ void lv_obj_set_parent(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_obj_t * parent)
         old_pos.x = old_par->coords.x2 - obj->coords.x2;
     }
 
-    _lv_ll_chg_list(&obj->parent->child_ll, &parent->child_ll, obj, true);
+    _lv_ll_chg_list(_lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj->parent), _lv_obj_get_child_ll(parent), obj, true);
     obj->parent = parent;
 
 
@@ -606,13 +607,14 @@ void lv_obj_move_foreground(lv_obj_t * obj)
     LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
 
     lv_obj_t * parent = lv_obj_get_parent(obj);
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(parent);
 
     /*Do nothing of already in the foreground*/
-    if(_lv_ll_get_head(&parent->child_ll) == obj) return;
+    if(_lv_ll_get_head(ll) == obj) return;
 
     lv_obj_invalidate(parent);
 
-    _lv_ll_chg_list(&parent->child_ll, &parent->child_ll, obj, true);
+    _lv_ll_chg_list(ll, ll, obj, true);
 
     /*Notify the new parent about the child*/
     parent->signal_cb(parent, LV_SIGNAL_CHILD_CHG, obj);
@@ -629,13 +631,14 @@ void lv_obj_move_background(lv_obj_t * obj)
     LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
 
     lv_obj_t * parent = lv_obj_get_parent(obj);
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(parent);
 
     /*Do nothing of already in the background*/
-    if(_lv_ll_get_tail(&parent->child_ll) == obj) return;
+    if(_lv_ll_get_tail(ll) == obj) return;
 
     lv_obj_invalidate(parent);
 
-    _lv_ll_chg_list(&parent->child_ll, &parent->child_ll, obj, false);
+    _lv_ll_chg_list(ll, ll, obj, false);
 
     /*Notify the new parent about the child*/
     parent->signal_cb(parent, LV_SIGNAL_CHILD_CHG, obj);
@@ -897,7 +900,8 @@ void lv_event_send_refresh_recursive(lv_obj_t * obj)
         if(res != LV_RES_OK) return; /*If invalid returned do not check the children*/
 
         lv_obj_t * child;
-        _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, child) {
+        lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+        _LV_LL_READ(ll, child) {
             lv_event_send_refresh_recursive(child);
         }
     }
@@ -1034,12 +1038,38 @@ void * lv_obj_allocate_ext_attr(lv_obj_t * obj, uint16_t ext_size)
     LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
 
     void * new_ext = lv_mem_realloc(obj->ext_attr, ext_size);
+    LV_ASSERT_MEM(new_ext);
     if(new_ext == NULL) return NULL;
 
     obj->ext_attr = new_ext;
     return (void *)obj->ext_attr;
 }
 
+/**
+ * Allocate a new ext. data for an object
+ * @param obj pointer to an object
+ * @param ext_size the size of the new ext. data
+ * @return pointer to the allocated ext.
+ * If out of memory NULL is returned and the original ext is preserved
+ */
+lv_obj_rare_attr_t * lv_obj_allocate_rare_attr(lv_obj_t * obj)
+{
+    LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
+
+
+    if(obj->rare_attr == NULL) {
+        obj->rare_attr = lv_mem_realloc(obj->ext_attr, sizeof(lv_obj_rare_attr_t));
+        LV_ASSERT_MEM(obj->rare_attr);
+        if(obj->rare_attr == NULL) return NULL;
+
+        _lv_memset_00(obj->rare_attr, sizeof(lv_obj_rare_attr_t));
+        _lv_ll_init(&(obj->rare_attr->child_ll), sizeof(lv_obj_t));
+
+    }
+    return obj->rare_attr;
+}
+
+
 
 /*=======================
  * Getter functions
@@ -1082,9 +1112,9 @@ lv_disp_t * lv_obj_get_disp(const lv_obj_t * obj)
         scr = lv_obj_get_screen(obj); /*get the screen of `obj`*/
 
     lv_disp_t * d;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_disp_ll), d) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_disp_ll), d) {
         lv_obj_t * s;
-        _LV_LL_READ(d->scr_ll, s) {
+        _LV_LL_READ(&d->scr_ll, s) {
             if(s == scr) return d;
         }
     }
@@ -1120,7 +1150,9 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_obj_get_child(const lv_obj_t * obj, const lv_obj_t * child)
 {
     LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
 
-    return child ? _lv_ll_get_next(&obj->child_ll, child) : _lv_ll_get_head(&obj->child_ll);
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    if (child) return _lv_ll_get_next(ll, child);
+    else return _lv_ll_get_head(ll);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -1134,7 +1166,9 @@ lv_obj_t * lv_obj_get_child_back(const lv_obj_t * obj, const lv_obj_t * child)
 {
     LV_ASSERT_OBJ(obj, LV_OBJX_NAME);
 
-    return child ? _lv_ll_get_prev(&obj->child_ll, child) : _lv_ll_get_tail(&obj->child_ll);
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    if(child) return _lv_ll_get_prev(ll, child);
+    else return _lv_ll_get_tail(ll);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -1173,7 +1207,8 @@ uint32_t lv_obj_get_child_id(const lv_obj_t * obj)
     uint32_t id = 0;
     lv_obj_t * child;
 
-    _LV_LL_READ_BACK(obj->child_ll, child) {
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    _LV_LL_READ_BACK(ll, child) {
         if(child == obj) return id;
         id++;
     }
@@ -1192,7 +1227,8 @@ uint32_t lv_obj_count_children(const lv_obj_t * obj)
     lv_obj_t * i;
     uint16_t cnt = 0;
 
-    _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, i) cnt++;
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    _LV_LL_READ(ll, i) cnt++;
 
     return cnt;
 }
@@ -1208,7 +1244,8 @@ uint32_t lv_obj_count_children_recursive(const lv_obj_t * obj)
     lv_obj_t * i;
     uint16_t cnt = 0;
 
-    _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, i) {
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    _LV_LL_READ(ll, i) {
         cnt++;                                     /*Count the child*/
         cnt += lv_obj_count_children_recursive(i); /*recursively count children's children*/
     }
@@ -1526,6 +1563,12 @@ bool lv_obj_is_instance_of(lv_obj_t * obj, const char * type_str)
     return false;
 }
 
+lv_ll_t * _lv_obj_get_child_ll(const lv_obj_t * obj)
+{
+    if(obj->rare_attr) return &obj->rare_attr->child_ll;
+    else return NULL;
+}
+
 /*-------------------
  * OTHER FUNCTIONS
  *------------------*/
@@ -1599,7 +1642,7 @@ bool _lv_debug_check_obj_valid(const lv_obj_t * obj)
     lv_disp_t * disp = lv_disp_get_next(NULL);
     while(disp) {
         lv_obj_t * scr;
-        _LV_LL_READ(disp->scr_ll, scr) {
+        _LV_LL_READ(&disp->scr_ll, scr) {
 
             if(scr == obj) return true;
             bool found = obj_valid_child(scr, obj);
@@ -1649,14 +1692,15 @@ static void obj_del_core(lv_obj_t * obj)
 #endif
 
     /*Recursively delete the children*/
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
     lv_obj_t * i;
-    i = _lv_ll_get_head(&(obj->child_ll));
+    i = _lv_ll_get_head(ll);
     while(i != NULL) {
         /*Call the recursive delete to the child too*/
         obj_del_core(i);
 
         /*Set i to the new head node*/
-        i = _lv_ll_get_head(&(obj->child_ll));
+        i = _lv_ll_get_head(ll);
     }
 
     lv_event_mark_deleted(obj);
@@ -1690,7 +1734,7 @@ static void obj_del_core(lv_obj_t * obj)
         _lv_ll_remove(&d->scr_ll, obj);
     }
     else {
-        _lv_ll_remove(&(par->child_ll), obj);
+        _lv_ll_remove(_lv_obj_get_child_ll(par), obj);
     }
 
     /*Delete the base objects*/
@@ -1842,7 +1886,7 @@ static lv_design_res_t lv_obj_design(lv_obj_t * obj, const lv_area_t * clip_area
 static void base_dir_refr_children(lv_obj_t * obj)
 {
     lv_obj_t * child;
-    _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, child) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(_lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj), child) {
         if(child->base_dir == LV_BIDI_DIR_INHERIT) {
             lv_signal_send(child, LV_SIGNAL_BASE_DIR_CHG, NULL);
             base_dir_refr_children(child);
@@ -1953,8 +1997,9 @@ static lv_res_t lv_obj_signal(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_signal_t sign, void * param)
         }
 
         if(w_new || h_new) {
+            lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
             lv_obj_t * child;
-            _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, child) {
+            _LV_LL_READ(ll, child) {
                 if((LV_COORD_IS_PCT(child->w_set) && w_new) ||
                         (LV_COORD_IS_PCT(child->h_set) && h_new))
                 {
@@ -2006,8 +2051,9 @@ static lv_res_t lv_obj_signal(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_signal_t sign, void * param)
         /*Reposition non grid objects on by one*/
         lv_obj_t * child;
 
-        _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, child) {
-            if(!LV_COORD_IS_GRID(child->x_set) || !LV_COORD_IS_GRID(child->y_set)) {
+        lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+        _LV_LL_READ(ll, child) {
+            if(LV_COORD_IS_PX(child->x_set) || LV_COORD_IS_PX(child->y_set)) {
                 lv_obj_set_pos(child, child->x_set, child->y_set);
             }
         }
@@ -2039,7 +2085,8 @@ static bool obj_valid_child(const lv_obj_t * parent, const lv_obj_t * obj_to_fin
 {
     /*Check all children of `parent`*/
     lv_obj_t * child;
-    _LV_LL_READ(parent->child_ll, child) {
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(parent);
+    _LV_LL_READ(ll, child) {
         if(child == obj_to_find) return true;
 
         /*Check the children*/
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj.h b/src/lv_core/lv_obj.h
index 5fdcc4f0a..5fcdb9ce0 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj.h
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj.h
@@ -208,12 +208,17 @@ typedef uint16_t lv_obj_flag_t;
 #include "lv_obj_draw.h"
 
 
-struct _lv_obj_t {
-    struct _lv_obj_t * parent; /**< Pointer to the parent object*/
+typedef struct {
     lv_ll_t child_ll;       /**< Linked list to store the children objects*/
+    lv_point_t scroll; /**< The current X/Y scroll offset*/
+}lv_obj_rare_attr_t;
+
+
+struct _lv_obj_t {
+    lv_obj_rare_attr_t * rare_attr;
+    struct _lv_obj_t * parent; /**< Pointer to the parent object*/
 
     lv_area_t coords; /**< Coordinates of the object (x1, y1, x2, y2)*/
-    lv_point_t scroll; /**< The current X/Y scroll offset*/
 
     lv_event_cb_t event_cb; /**< Event callback function */
     lv_signal_cb_t signal_cb; /**< Object type specific signal function*/
@@ -548,6 +553,7 @@ void lv_obj_set_design_cb(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_design_cb_t design_cb);
  */
 void * lv_obj_allocate_ext_attr(lv_obj_t * obj, uint16_t ext_size);
 
+lv_obj_rare_attr_t * lv_obj_allocate_rare_attr(lv_obj_t * obj);
 /*=======================
  * Getter functions
  *======================*/
@@ -760,6 +766,8 @@ bool lv_obj_is_focused(const lv_obj_t * obj);
  */
 bool lv_obj_is_instance_of(lv_obj_t * obj, const char * type_str);
 
+lv_ll_t * _lv_obj_get_child_ll(const lv_obj_t * obj) ;
+
 /**
  * Get the really focused object by taking `focus_parent` into account.
  * @param obj the start object
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_draw.c b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_draw.c
index f01f26770..ac356a140 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_draw.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_draw.c
@@ -438,19 +438,23 @@ void _lv_obj_draw_scrollbar(lv_obj_t * obj, const lv_area_t * clip_area)
     lv_coord_t obj_w = lv_obj_get_width(obj);
 
     bool ver_draw = false;
-    if((sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ON) ||
-       (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_AUTO && (st > 0 || sb > 0)) ||
-       (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ACTIVE && lv_indev_get_scroll_dir(indev) == LV_SCROLL_DIR_VER)) {
+    if((obj->scroll_dir & LV_DIR_VER) &&
+       ((sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ON) ||
+        (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_AUTO && (st > 0 || sb > 0)) ||
+        (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ACTIVE && lv_indev_get_scroll_dir(indev) == LV_SCROLL_DIR_VER))) {
         ver_draw = true;
     }
 
+
     bool hor_draw = false;
-    if((sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ON) ||
-       (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_AUTO && (sl > 0 || sr > 0)) ||
-       (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ACTIVE && lv_indev_get_scroll_dir(indev) == LV_SCROLL_DIR_HOR)) {
+    if((obj->scroll_dir & LV_DIR_HOR) &&
+          ((sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ON) ||
+           (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_AUTO && (sl > 0 || sr > 0)) ||
+           (sm == LV_SCROLL_MODE_ACTIVE && lv_indev_get_scroll_dir(indev) == LV_SCROLL_DIR_HOR))) {
         hor_draw = true;
     }
 
+
     lv_coord_t ver_reg_space = ver_draw ? tickness + side_space : 0;
     lv_coord_t hor_req_space = hor_draw ? tickness + side_space : 0;
     lv_coord_t rem;
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_pos.c b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_pos.c
index 125f65fe4..8aaabcdb1 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_pos.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_pos.c
@@ -694,7 +694,8 @@ void _lv_obj_move_to(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_coord_t y, bool notify_par
 void _lv_obj_move_children_by(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x_diff, lv_coord_t y_diff)
 {
     lv_obj_t * i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, i) {
+    lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+    _LV_LL_READ(ll, i) {
         i->coords.x1 += x_diff;
         i->coords.y1 += y_diff;
         i->coords.x2 += x_diff;
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_scroll.c b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_scroll.c
index c3b9a3976..a192ed4ad 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_scroll.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_scroll.c
@@ -73,8 +73,13 @@ lv_scroll_mode_t lv_obj_get_scroll_mode(lv_obj_t * obj)
  */
 void _lv_obj_scroll_by_raw(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_coord_t y)
 {
-    obj->scroll.x += x;
-    obj->scroll.y += y;
+    if(x == 0 && y == 0) return;
+
+    if(obj->rare_attr == NULL) {
+        obj->rare_attr = lv_obj_allocate_rare_attr(obj);
+    }
+    obj->rare_attr->scroll.x += x;
+    obj->rare_attr->scroll.y += y;
 
     _lv_obj_move_children_by(obj, x, y);
     lv_res_t res = lv_signal_send(obj, LV_SIGNAL_SCROLL, NULL);
@@ -107,7 +112,8 @@ void lv_obj_scroll_by(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_coord_t y, lv_anim_enable
             if(t < SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MIN) t = SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MIN;
             if(t > SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MAX) t = SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MAX;
             lv_anim_set_time(&a, t);
-            lv_anim_set_values(&a, obj->scroll.x, obj->scroll.x + x);
+            lv_coord_t sl = lv_obj_get_scroll_left(obj);
+            lv_anim_set_values(&a, -sl, -sl + x);
             lv_anim_set_exec_cb(&a, (lv_anim_exec_xcb_t) scroll_anim_x_cb);
             lv_anim_set_path(&a, &path);
             lv_anim_start(&a);
@@ -118,7 +124,8 @@ void lv_obj_scroll_by(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_coord_t y, lv_anim_enable
             if(t < SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MIN) t = SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MIN;
             if(t > SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MAX) t = SCROLL_ANIM_TIME_MAX;
             lv_anim_set_time(&a, t);
-            lv_anim_set_values(&a, obj->scroll.y, obj->scroll.y + y);
+            lv_coord_t st = lv_obj_get_scroll_top(obj);
+            lv_anim_set_values(&a, -st, -st + y);
             lv_anim_set_exec_cb(&a,  (lv_anim_exec_xcb_t) scroll_anim_y_cb);
             lv_anim_set_path(&a, &path);
             lv_anim_start(&a);
@@ -147,7 +154,7 @@ void lv_obj_scroll_to(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_coord_t y, lv_anim_enable
  */
 void lv_obj_scroll_to_x(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_anim_enable_t anim_en)
 {
-    lv_obj_scroll_by(obj, -x - obj->scroll.x, 0, anim_en);
+    lv_obj_scroll_by(obj, -x + lv_obj_get_scroll_left(obj), 0, anim_en);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -157,7 +164,7 @@ void lv_obj_scroll_to_x(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t x, lv_anim_enable_t anim_en)
  */
 void lv_obj_scroll_to_y(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t y, lv_anim_enable_t anim_en)
 {
-    lv_obj_scroll_by(obj, 0,  -y - obj->scroll.y, anim_en);
+    lv_obj_scroll_by(obj, 0,  -y + lv_obj_get_scroll_top(obj), anim_en);
 }
 
 
@@ -170,7 +177,8 @@ void lv_obj_scroll_to_y(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_coord_t y, lv_anim_enable_t anim_en)
  */
 lv_coord_t lv_obj_get_scroll_top(const lv_obj_t * obj)
 {
-    return -obj->scroll.y;
+    if(obj->rare_attr == NULL) return 0;
+    return -obj->rare_attr->scroll.y;
 }
 
 /**
@@ -205,7 +213,7 @@ lv_coord_t lv_obj_get_scroll_bottom(lv_obj_t * obj)
 
     lv_coord_t self_h = _lv_obj_get_self_height(obj);
     self_h = self_h - (lv_obj_get_height(obj) - pad_top - pad_bottom);
-    self_h += obj->scroll.y;
+    self_h -= lv_obj_get_scroll_top(obj);
     return LV_MATH_MAX(child_res, self_h);
 }
 
@@ -218,7 +226,8 @@ lv_coord_t lv_obj_get_scroll_bottom(lv_obj_t * obj)
  */
 lv_coord_t lv_obj_get_scroll_left(const lv_obj_t * obj)
 {
-    return -obj->scroll.x;
+    if(obj->rare_attr == NULL) return 0;
+    return -obj->rare_attr->scroll.x;
 }
 
 /**
@@ -251,7 +260,7 @@ lv_coord_t lv_obj_get_scroll_right(lv_obj_t * obj)
 
     lv_coord_t self_w = _lv_obj_get_self_width(obj);
     self_w = self_w - (lv_obj_get_width(obj) - pad_right - pad_left);
-    self_w += obj->scroll.x;
+    self_w -= lv_obj_get_scroll_left(obj);
 
     return LV_MATH_MAX(child_res, self_w);
 }
@@ -278,10 +287,10 @@ void lv_obj_get_scroll_end(struct _lv_obj_t  * obj, lv_point_t * end)
 
 static void scroll_anim_x_cb(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_anim_value_t v)
 {
-    _lv_obj_scroll_by_raw(obj, v - obj->scroll.x, 0);
+    _lv_obj_scroll_by_raw(obj, v + lv_obj_get_scroll_left(obj), 0);
 }
 
 static void scroll_anim_y_cb(lv_obj_t * obj, lv_anim_value_t v)
 {
-    _lv_obj_scroll_by_raw(obj, 0, v - obj->scroll.y);
+    _lv_obj_scroll_by_raw(obj, 0, v + lv_obj_get_scroll_top(obj));
 }
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_style.c b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_style.c
index fbd02c2f1..75e780843 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_obj_style.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_obj_style.c
@@ -191,7 +191,7 @@ void lv_obj_report_style_change(lv_style_t * style)
 
     while(d) {
         lv_obj_t * i;
-        _LV_LL_READ(d->scr_ll, i) {
+        _LV_LL_READ(&d->scr_ll, i) {
             report_style_change_core(style, i);
         }
         d = lv_disp_get_next(d);
@@ -1247,7 +1247,7 @@ static void trans_anim_ready_cb(lv_anim_t * a)
      * It allows changing it by normal styles*/
     bool running = false;
     lv_style_trans_t * tr_i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_obj_style_trans_ll), tr_i) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_obj_style_trans_ll), tr_i) {
         if(tr_i != tr && tr_i->obj == tr->obj && tr_i->part == tr->part && tr_i->prop == tr->prop) {
             running = true;
         }
diff --git a/src/lv_core/lv_refr.c b/src/lv_core/lv_refr.c
index d0ad96b52..ce8119808 100644
--- a/src/lv_core/lv_refr.c
+++ b/src/lv_core/lv_refr.c
@@ -582,7 +582,8 @@ static lv_obj_t * lv_refr_get_top_obj(const lv_area_t * area_p, lv_obj_t * obj)
 #endif
 
         lv_obj_t * i;
-        _LV_LL_READ(obj->child_ll, i) {
+        lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+        _LV_LL_READ(ll, i) {
             found_p = lv_refr_get_top_obj(area_p, i);
 
             /*If a children is ok then break*/
@@ -626,13 +627,14 @@ static void lv_refr_obj_and_children(lv_obj_t * top_p, const lv_area_t * mask_p)
 
     /*Do until not reach the screen*/
     while(par != NULL) {
+        lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(par);
         /*object before border_p has to be redrawn*/
-        lv_obj_t * i = _lv_ll_get_prev(&(par->child_ll), border_p);
+        lv_obj_t * i = _lv_ll_get_prev(ll, border_p);
 
         while(i != NULL) {
             /*Refresh the objects*/
             lv_refr_obj(i, mask_p);
-            i = _lv_ll_get_prev(&(par->child_ll), i);
+            i = _lv_ll_get_prev(ll, i);
         }
 
         /*Call the post draw design function of the parents of the to object*/
@@ -700,7 +702,8 @@ static void lv_refr_obj(lv_obj_t * obj, const lv_area_t * mask_ori_p)
             lv_area_t mask_child; /*Mask from obj and its child*/
             lv_obj_t * child_p;
             lv_area_t child_area;
-            _LV_LL_READ_BACK(obj->child_ll, child_p) {
+            lv_ll_t * ll = _lv_obj_get_child_ll(obj);
+            _LV_LL_READ_BACK(ll, child_p) {
                 lv_obj_get_coords(child_p, &child_area);
                 ext_size = child_p->ext_draw_pad;
                 child_area.x1 -= ext_size;
diff --git a/src/lv_draw/lv_img_decoder.c b/src/lv_draw/lv_img_decoder.c
index 895c064bb..e52a170b5 100644
--- a/src/lv_draw/lv_img_decoder.c
+++ b/src/lv_draw/lv_img_decoder.c
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ lv_res_t lv_img_decoder_get_info(const char * src, lv_img_header_t * header)
 
     lv_res_t res = LV_RES_INV;
     lv_img_decoder_t * d;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_img_defoder_ll), d) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_img_defoder_ll), d) {
         res = LV_RES_INV;
         if(d->info_cb) {
             res = d->info_cb(d, src, header);
@@ -136,7 +136,7 @@ lv_res_t lv_img_decoder_open(lv_img_decoder_dsc_t * dsc, const void * src, lv_co
     lv_res_t res = LV_RES_INV;
 
     lv_img_decoder_t * d;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_img_defoder_ll), d) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_img_defoder_ll), d) {
         /*Info an Open callbacks are required*/
         if(d->info_cb == NULL || d->open_cb == NULL) continue;
 
diff --git a/src/lv_hal/lv_hal_disp.c b/src/lv_hal/lv_hal_disp.c
index 3e7a33c67..352047f59 100644
--- a/src/lv_hal/lv_hal_disp.c
+++ b/src/lv_hal/lv_hal_disp.c
@@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ void lv_disp_drv_update(lv_disp_t * disp, lv_disp_drv_t * new_drv)
     memcpy(&disp->driver, new_drv, sizeof(lv_disp_drv_t));
 
     lv_obj_t * scr;
-    _LV_LL_READ(disp->scr_ll, scr) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&disp->scr_ll, scr) {
         lv_obj_set_size(scr, lv_disp_get_hor_res(disp), lv_disp_get_ver_res(disp));
     }
 }
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_anim.c b/src/lv_misc/lv_anim.c
index 4996eb8b1..f9b78fbe7 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_anim.c
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_anim.c
@@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ bool lv_anim_del(void * var, lv_anim_exec_xcb_t exec_cb)
 lv_anim_t * lv_anim_get(void * var, lv_anim_exec_xcb_t exec_cb)
 {
     lv_anim_t * a;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) {
         if(a->var == var && a->exec_cb == exec_cb) {
             return a;
         }
@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ uint16_t lv_anim_count_running(void)
 {
     uint16_t cnt = 0;
     lv_anim_t * a;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) cnt++;
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) cnt++;
 
     return cnt;
 }
@@ -444,7 +444,7 @@ static void anim_task(lv_task_t * param)
     (void)param;
 
     lv_anim_t * a;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_anim_ll), a) {
         a->has_run = 0;
     }
 
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_fs.c b/src/lv_misc/lv_fs.c
index 2a6a834bb..475fcab52 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_fs.c
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_fs.c
@@ -503,7 +503,7 @@ lv_fs_drv_t * lv_fs_get_drv(char letter)
 {
     lv_fs_drv_t * drv;
 
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_drv_ll), drv) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_drv_ll), drv) {
         if(drv->letter == letter) {
             return drv;
         }
@@ -521,7 +521,7 @@ char * lv_fs_get_letters(char * buf)
     lv_fs_drv_t * drv;
     uint8_t i = 0;
 
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_drv_ll), drv) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_drv_ll), drv) {
         buf[i] = drv->letter;
         i++;
     }
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.c b/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.c
index 4d3e4dabc..0b9d7df9b 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.c
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.c
@@ -156,6 +156,8 @@ void * _lv_ll_ins_tail(lv_ll_t * ll_p)
  */
 void _lv_ll_remove(lv_ll_t * ll_p, void * node_p)
 {
+    if(ll_p == NULL) return;
+
     if(_lv_ll_get_head(ll_p) == node_p) {
         /*The new head will be the node after 'n_act'*/
         ll_p->head = _lv_ll_get_next(ll_p, node_p);
@@ -249,7 +251,27 @@ void _lv_ll_chg_list(lv_ll_t * ll_ori_p, lv_ll_t * ll_new_p, void * node, bool h
     }
 }
 
+/**
+ * Return with head node of the linked list
+ * @param ll_p pointer to linked list
+ * @return pointer to the head of 'll_p'
+ */
+void * _lv_ll_get_head(const lv_ll_t * ll_p)
+{
+    if(ll_p == NULL) return NULL;
+    return ll_p->head;
+}
 
+/**
+ * Return with tail node of the linked list
+ * @param ll_p pointer to linked list
+ * @return pointer to the head of 'll_p'
+ */
+void * _lv_ll_get_tail(const lv_ll_t * ll_p)
+{
+    if(ll_p == NULL) return NULL;
+    return ll_p->tail;
+}
 /**
  * Return with the pointer of the next node after 'n_act'
  * @param ll_p pointer to linked list
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.h b/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.h
index 0fac6a713..812f840a6 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.h
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_ll.h
@@ -98,20 +98,14 @@ void _lv_ll_chg_list(lv_ll_t * ll_ori_p, lv_ll_t * ll_new_p, void * node, bool h
  * @param ll_p pointer to linked list
  * @return pointer to the head of 'll_p'
  */
-static inline void * _lv_ll_get_head(const lv_ll_t * ll_p)
-{
-    return ll_p->head;
-}
+void * _lv_ll_get_head(const lv_ll_t * ll_p);
 
 /**
  * Return with tail node of the linked list
  * @param ll_p pointer to linked list
  * @return pointer to the head of 'll_p'
  */
-static inline void * _lv_ll_get_tail(const lv_ll_t * ll_p)
-{
-    return ll_p->tail;
-}
+void * _lv_ll_get_tail(const lv_ll_t * ll_p);
 
 /**
  * Return with the pointer of the next node after 'n_act'
@@ -163,9 +157,9 @@ bool _lv_ll_is_empty(lv_ll_t * ll_p);
  *      MACROS
  **********************/
 
-#define _LV_LL_READ(list, i) for(i = _lv_ll_get_head(&list); i != NULL; i = _lv_ll_get_next(&list, i))
+#define _LV_LL_READ(list, i) for((i) = _lv_ll_get_head(list); i != NULL; (i) = _lv_ll_get_next(list, i))
 
-#define _LV_LL_READ_BACK(list, i) for(i = _lv_ll_get_tail(&list); i != NULL; i = _lv_ll_get_prev(&list, i))
+#define _LV_LL_READ_BACK(list, i) for(i = _lv_ll_get_tail(list); i != NULL; i = _lv_ll_get_prev(list, i))
 
 #ifdef __cplusplus
 } /* extern "C" */
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_mem.c b/src/lv_misc/lv_mem.c
index c41ea98eb..761440723 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_mem.c
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_mem.c
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
 #endif
 
 #ifndef LV_MEM_FULL_DEFRAG_CNT
-    #define LV_MEM_FULL_DEFRAG_CNT 32
+    #define LV_MEM_FULL_DEFRAG_CNT 64
 #endif
 
 #ifdef LV_ARCH_64
diff --git a/src/lv_misc/lv_task.c b/src/lv_misc/lv_task.c
index c051d9faa..c9b9837ae 100644
--- a/src/lv_misc/lv_task.c
+++ b/src/lv_misc/lv_task.c
@@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ void lv_task_set_prio(lv_task_t * task, lv_task_prio_t prio)
 
     /*Find the tasks with new priority*/
     lv_task_t * i;
-    _LV_LL_READ(LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_task_ll), i) {
+    _LV_LL_READ(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_task_ll), i) {
         if(i->prio <= prio) {
             if(i != task) _lv_ll_move_before(&LV_GC_ROOT(_lv_task_ll), task, i);
             break;
diff --git a/src/lv_themes/lv_theme_material.c b/src/lv_themes/lv_theme_material.c
index 31ad91d04..f8652378b 100644
--- a/src/lv_themes/lv_theme_material.c
+++ b/src/lv_themes/lv_theme_material.c
@@ -203,6 +203,7 @@ static bool inited;
 
 static void basic_init(void)
 {
+    style_init_reset(&styles->sb);
     lv_style_set_scrollbar_bg_opa(&styles->sb, LV_STATE_DEFAULT, LV_OPA_COVER);
     lv_style_set_scrollbar_bg_color(&styles->sb, LV_STATE_DEFAULT, (IS_LIGHT ? lv_color_hex(0xcccfd1) : lv_color_hex(0x777f85)));
     lv_style_set_scrollbar_radius(&styles->sb, LV_STATE_DEFAULT, LV_RADIUS_CIRCLE);